I'm sure others would have dealt their goalies knowing they could have gotten that kings ransom. Holy cow!
Hell, if that's the "market value" I wonder what I could ask for Matt Murray!
I just don't see the justification personally. I think it's a bad deal. I'll try to state my case below, and from what I've heard a few of you seem to align with these judgements...
We can't police every deal where we disagree with the judgement of one of the parties, but in this case it seems very lopsided that we must as a league jump in so that one side does not gain an unfair advantage.
-The 2nd is effectively a 1st round pick, let us always remember that.
-Hischier is a 1st overall bonafide stud
-Konecny is a proven commodity that I know many in this league and outside of it value with even higher upside remaining to be seen.
-Sprong may end up being a fine player but we haven't seen it yet.
-Hertl has a terrible terrible contract and has never eclipsed 46 points.. there are cheaper alternatives on the market certainly but I digress. The recipient appears to put a lot of faith in him.
-And lastly Grubauer.. sure he was a fine backup in Washington, but we've seen this song and dance with backups before.. Lehner Reimer Talbot Condon Raanta Mrazek Darling Greiss....
will he be a Vasilevsky? I doubt it because history tells us it's a tough gamble to win.
If memory serves me correct Colorado tried this with Varlamov from Washington.
TRADE - Anaheim & Toronto
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It's a close one. I think it comes down to the fact that Grubaeur is not guaranteed to be a #1. Varlamov has gotten injured at times but is only 30 and has not shown any signs of not being a number #1 goalie. That makes this trade very 1-sided. If this was Talbot last year or Darling this past year where they were #1 goalies coming in, I can understand the trade a bit more.
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I think the trade between Habs and I is way more equal. Bobrovsky is a top 5 goalie and Dubnyk is around the 10th rank considering his contract will be around 3M for the next 2 years. Plus, Simmonds is a multi-cat beast, even if he just had a down year.DucksGM wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:17 pm Here you are comrades my reasoning:
I need another solid goalie. Grubauer will likely win the starting job in Colorado and if not this year, then next. He's young and cheap. Sprong is a great prospect and you could consider him and Konecny a wash. If I had to give up Hischier for Grubauer for me it's not terrible because i've got other young guns coming up. Look the price MTL paid for Bobrovsky and Dubnyk....Then I got Hertl. I've always liked him. Even when WIndsor had him I tried to get him a couple times.
I have no problem undoing my trade if the other Gms thinks it's best for the league.
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Re: TRADE - Anaheim & Toronto
Decision:
After hearing the concerns around this deal, listening to the Ducks and his reasoning, and conferring with Dallas about the outcome, we have decided that the trade will stand.
While the trade may not be one that all GMs would make, Anaheim is a GM that has been in this league long enough to understand the value of players he is both giving up and receiving.
In listening to the rationale, we honestly believe that this trade was made with the intent to better the Anaheim Ducks' franchise.
With the uncertainty around the Avalanche goaltending situation going into the season, time will tell if this deal positively impacts the Ducks going forward. Grubauer may not be the main guy this season, but he is young and the Avs have committed to him longterm. We will find out
We hope going forward that all GMs continue to make deals that they believe are in their best interest and strengthen their franchise.
After hearing the concerns around this deal, listening to the Ducks and his reasoning, and conferring with Dallas about the outcome, we have decided that the trade will stand.
While the trade may not be one that all GMs would make, Anaheim is a GM that has been in this league long enough to understand the value of players he is both giving up and receiving.
In listening to the rationale, we honestly believe that this trade was made with the intent to better the Anaheim Ducks' franchise.
With the uncertainty around the Avalanche goaltending situation going into the season, time will tell if this deal positively impacts the Ducks going forward. Grubauer may not be the main guy this season, but he is young and the Avs have committed to him longterm. We will find out
We hope going forward that all GMs continue to make deals that they believe are in their best interest and strengthen their franchise.